there's also a group called the emergency committee, whatever it is, for israel. that's two pieces, one partisan, one ideological to tell you where they're coming from, right? >> and they happen to share the same firm to buy their media. these are the firms that kind of put television ads on the air and some of the firms are partisan and it so happens the group they use, smart media is a republican group. they buy for republicans and republicans only more or less. >> let me be the most naive person in television and ask you why don't they come out and say who they are and why they're opposing this guy? >> well, i think in "the huffington post" report they said they're gay rights democrats -- >> okay. >> but -- >> hrc, a group i have worked with for years, almost two decades, is with them, they accept the man's change of heart as part of the country's change of heart about gay rights and certainly marriage equality and who are these people that stay in the shadows and say they have a problem with his positions on guns, on israel, on gay rights, on everything? it ju